“Just came back from Portland, Oregon. One heck of a beautiful place. $250K-$300K for a lovely home. Drive up to Vancouver, pay 5x more for a house. Makes perfect sense, right?”

“Just came back from Oregon. Portland is one heck of a beautiful place.
Houses? $250-$300 for lovely home.
Coast. Fishing. Skiing. Hiking. Hunting. Motorcycling. All close. Drive south to CA for beach long weekends. Drive up to Vancouver, pay 5x more for a house. Makes perfect sense, right?”

Sebee at greaterfool.ca 16 Oct 2012 1:03pm

24 responses to ““Just came back from Portland, Oregon. One heck of a beautiful place. $250K-$300K for a lovely home. Drive up to Vancouver, pay 5x more for a house. Makes perfect sense, right?”

  1. And not just affordable homes in Portland: lots of funky neighbourhoods and each boasting their own movie theatre/community living room, while ours are making way for retails and -what else- residential.

    • “My God, Zbigniew… It’s full of stars!”

      [NoteToEd/DearReaders: I ain’t been there in so long… That I intend to remedy that sorry state of affairs this Spring. It will – naturally – be illustrated. And published, exclusively… Here. Any ‘burg whose cultural ecology can still sustain neighbourhood PictureHouses is self evidently healthy… and civilized. FYI & TBT… ‘Nem’ is more closely affiliated to:]

  2. Yah but, then you have to call yourself……. an Oregonian. I’d rather be dead.

    *Turns up nose and minces – and I do mean minces – away.*

  3. Don’t forget you come back to Vancouver to 300 sq foot condos too! I have always enjoyed Portland – tax free! Seems to have many nice neighbourhoods. I saw homes similar to character homes in Kerrisdale,and Dunbar that sold for 500-600K. Sorry it is not Vancouver – but Portland has Nike, Intel, and other head offices and don’t forget about the wonderful microbreweries. Now excuse me..I feel the need to plan a trip back to Portland!

  4. There’s alot to love in Portland, “For a while now, Portland has claimed the title of most strips clubs per capita in the country.”
    http://www.time.com/time/travel/cityguide/article/0,31489,1975826_1975753_1975585,00.html

  5. $10 that rod_jonsson is chubster. Always posts after Nemesis and is completely incomprehensible.

  6. Obligatory:

  7. It is also pretty damn hard to find a decent job in Portland.

    I hear great things about living there but most people will complain the job situation.

    • I’ve heard it’s no worse for us late-20-to-early-30-somethings but the cost of living is essentially half even if you aren’t considering buying a place.

      Probably depends on the field of expertise though. Some of the high tech and biotech prospects look much rosier there than in Vancouver.

  8. Portland still embodies a lot of what made Vancouver so great, and such a perfect antithesis to Toronto.

  9. http://money.cnn.com/gallery/retirement/2012/10/16/best-places-retire.moneymag/2.html

    CNN profiled top cities in US to retire, and Portland came out #2. $272k average home price.

    “No need to leave the city for outdoor adventures; Portland has one of the largest urban forests in the country (wine country and beaches are just a short drive away). It’s also home to several award-winning hospitals, including the Oregon Health & Sciences University, whose research center attracts experts and patients from around the country.” – CNN

    Don’t think I’d up and move from where I had established roots, but if making a decision to do so and didn’t need an especially big representation of big employers, it’d be a nice place.

    CanAmerican

  10. Anyone who has watched “Portlandia” knows its an even loopier place than Vancouver under Gregor!

  11. Best option would be to live in Vancouver Washington, just across the river from Portland. On the Washington side, you pay no state income tax. You can then do all your shopping in Portland and pay no sales tax.

    One caveat. I have not checked, but there is likely a premium on housing prices in Vancouver WA for precisely this reason, negating any benefit from such a stategy.

  12. Yeah…US is nice place to live until you get sick…unless of course ur rich then that’s not an issue, it will still be a nice place to live 😀

    • Or you happen to be part of the vast majority of people with insurance.

      Why is that most people seem to think there is absolutely no health care insurance in the US?

      • It’s not that there isn’t insurance nor healthcare, just that in the situation of falling deathly ill, there is more than a significant chance that you will never recover financially. (Because, you do read the fine print right? Insurance does not pay for EVERYTHING — they cap out.)

        http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/05/21/153028362/your-stories-of-being-sick-inside-the-u-s-health-care-system

        Of course if you’re lucky and only need routine/comestic fixes, then you’re fine. But what may be considered “medically necessary” in say the Canadian Health Care system is often not lucrative enough to provide. Private hospitals and services have a history of only doing the “highly profitable” procedures — hey, if I was running a private practice, I wouldn’t take on risky procedures that didn’t generate gobs of money either. Because if I fail, it’s bad business. But if nothing goes wrong, I can win awards as “best hospital” (zero fatalities — kind of hard to have fatalities if I never admit anyone into ER). Why wouldn’t I?

      • Because those of us with relatives who had excellent health care but actually got sick find that their excellent health care turns to sewage if you change jobs to a company with a different provider. A family member’s “excellent” coverage with his employer pretty much covers if he breaks a leg, but the health condition diagnosed when at a different job/different employer? Not so much. The time spent on getting the two companies to talk: the rejections and then reluctant approvals: the hours upon hours upon hours dealing with paperwork, bureaucracy: the fact you can’t go outside HMO mandated providers – essentially, he has a part time job just dealing with the red-tape.

        I also have a family member who is a doctor who won’t deal with HMOs and only takes very rich clients. (Different speciality, alas.) HMOs determine what health care paths they push based not on studies and performance of that treatment, but instead on optimizing their own profit. This doctor has some of the best success rates in the world because of all the fat dollars come rollin’ through the door.

        HMOs are very much like the Future Shop salespersons, who (at least used to) make commissions based on the store profit – so were usually pushing the stuff with high mark-up, not necessarily the right system for the consumer.

        So, yeah. It’s the best of all health care systems, it’s the worst of all health care systems. Just don’t get sick.

      • Sorry, those stories weren’t the ones I was looking for. Those are of people who are uninsured. But there are stories (a lot harder to find now because of the current state of Health Care in the US — basically the uninsured problem is a pretty large one at the moment) that talk about people who WERE insured and still basically lost all their money after being sick. So then, what was the point of being insured? To underwrite your allergy pills?

        But this is probably OT. =b

  13. Apropos the Portlandia thread… for all of you who may not independently have stumbled upon this excellent summation of AllThingsPresidential and TheStateOfTheUnion…

    [NoteToEd: as I may have previously opined, it’s a marvellous place to work… if sometimes an intolerably strange place to live. One thing’s for sure… If they don’t kill ya first… They’ll show you the best time on the planet.]

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