“i wish vancouver would go back to how it was when i was growing up. i’m 35. there was some freedom. now, the love is gone, rules abound. complainers run everything. we have to compete with the entire world to buy a house.”

“i wish vancouver would go back to how it was when i was growing up. i’m 35. i liked living on the westside. it’s too expensive now. kits beach used to be empty on a satuday in july. it was nice. now it’s full of douches, and the culture is more transient than anything, lots of people from australia or just arrived from out east. ick. there were lots of small stores in cute old buildings on 4th and on robson. it was nice. now it’s just the same old crap that can be found in any generic mall or cruise ship port. people were mellow, cleaned up after themselves, and would congregate on the beaches at night during the summer, and were free to have a fire and drink a beer. there was some freedom. now, the love is gone, rules abound. complainers run everything. we have to compete with the entire world to buy a house. everyone wants to come here, but what about the people who lived here before? pushed aside, a humble cuture, overrun. who cares about the money! let’s stop whoring our city out to the world. i propose limits on foreign property ownership. if your not canadian, you can’t buy land in vancouver. good ruloe i think. we wouldn’t be the first place to do it, and for the same reasons..good reasons.”
‘go love your own city’, at straight.com, ’29 Jul 2012′ [hat-tip Adam]

55 responses to ““i wish vancouver would go back to how it was when i was growing up. i’m 35. there was some freedom. now, the love is gone, rules abound. complainers run everything. we have to compete with the entire world to buy a house.”

  1. I’m about the same age and I grew up in Kits– I remember the beaches always being BUSY on a nice day in the summer.

  2. Ya, gotta hate those complainers, running everything or not…

  3. Renters Revenge

    Don’t worry Vancouver will get back to its pedestrian heritage soon enough. Pleasant side benefit of a bursting RE bubble.

  4. Situationroom

    Canadians have been brain washed to stay quiet for fear of offending someone. This fear has caused the depletion of an entire generation of Vancouverrites and will continue unless we start screaming without this fear

  5. why do we let idiots breed?

  6. I wonder how many times something similar was thought by a First Nation member in decades past.

    • Situationroom

      So true regarding the first nations. However, Two wrongs don’t make a right.

      • robert dudek

        My point isn’t about right or wrong. It’s a larger point that what has happened to Vancouver was beyond the control of local forces, just as much as qhat happened to the indigenous peoples of the continent was largelt beyond their control.

        What this anecdote is complaing about is that Van was once a backwater and niw is less of one. Short of completely destroying what is good about, there is nothing you can do about it.

        It is a somewhat similar to what has happened to Prague over the last 20 years. A very good friend came here in 1990. It was relatively untouched by mass tourism, was affordable and beautiful. Now it is still beatiful but is not affordable and is absolutely overrun by tourists from end to end (sadly I am one of then). Are the locals happy about- most are not, I can see it in there faces. The Prague of their youth is gone forever.

    • Robert,

      Your argument might make a little more sense if it were Native Americans who are driving out the locals. I emphasize “might” though, as it’s definately a shade of dark gray as far as ethic goes. . . If everyone went out for revenge due to past crimes hundreds and even thousands of years ago we would have a mad world.

      Your argument is truly just an admission of guilt. Arguing that you’re behaving like the Brits did to the Native Americans is no defense, believe me, taking pride in being as brutal as the British Empire hundreds of years later is hardly an acheivement.

  7. “if your not canadian” and “good ruloe i think”
    People can’t spell deserve to be homeless.

  8. The difference regarding first nations is they were looking down the barrel of a gun where as Us locals totally sold out big time. There is no turning back now damage is done. I agree with you about the rules but remember rules are ment to be broken. The foreign money will disapear once it’s evident you can actually lose money in real estate. If you want Vancouvers past go live on the island. Friendly people .

    • Big D,

      Not entirely accurate I’m afraid. Study your history. Many Native American chieftans sold out their own people to either the British and/or French in exchange for money, resources, or power. Of course once they sold out their own people, the powers that be had no use for them, and they were quickly disposed. Reminds you a lot of a certain municipal government?

      • With respect Don there would have been no negotiations had the settlers not had guns and ammo. Not sure what history book your referring to. By the way I wasn’t there at the time and neither were you but in general terms people historically didn’t give away the farm unless they have exausted all other alternatives. My point being was there wasn’t much of a choice for them but we collectively have sold out when we didn’t have to. The prospect of short term gains versus an entire generation being displaced at the expense of funding the older generations retirement plans. Vancouver will continue it’s downward trajectory but new comers will love it because it’s better than where they came from while the majority of locals seek alternatives. End game Vancouver has no local culture to draw from. We will be a melting pot of individual islands with no identity whatsoever .

  9. I think I remember Bill Bennett “Inviting the world” to EXPO 86. We paid a lot of money for the advertising for that and for the 2010 Olympics. We really can’t complain when they actually come!!!!…but I totally agree with the comment. Long live Fred Hertzog!!!!!

  10. Never say you are Surrey!

    Unless you live here, work here and pay your taxes here, your property taxes should be multiplied by 10. Bring our community back!

  11. Ahh the good old days… Memory can be very selective…

  12. This person sounds like the complainer he is complaining is ruining his town.

    Who doesn’ t wish their life was like it was when they were a kid? Romanticize much? Get over it. Nothing is like it was 30 years ago. Nothing. Nada. Zip.

    And, really, do we want to return to those days? Life is good. We have it good. People have selective memories.

  13. 4SlicesofCheese

    This guys parents are immigrants and he is complaining about immigrants destroying his city?

    • Joe_blown_away_by_high_housing_costs

      How do you know this person’s parents are immigrants? I feel the same way and neither of my parents are immigrants. My grandparents weren’t immigrants either. My great great great grandfather was one of the first white settlers in new Westminster in1865 (I loved living in new west til I was renovicted). I can trace my white ancestry in Canada and the USA back to the 1600s. One of my ancestors homes was used as headquarters for the American revolution. In many parts of the world, when one can trace their ancestors in a place back 4 centuries, they are considered indigenous.

      • 4SlicesofCheese

        LOL sorry got my anecdotes mixed up, the person 2 posts earlier was from Philippines.

  14. midnite toker

    Yes too many Damn rules, can’t even drive 160 on the highway without getting your car seized or go 2 stops on the skyrain when you’re hungover as shit without some Nazi transit cop hassling you. Forget about going downtown for the fireworks too! can’t drink a beer….

    Damn I feel like an old coot now and I’m not even thirty.

  15. Joe_blown_away_by_high_housing_costs

    I am about the same age and I agree 100%. Never mind kits beach, you can’t even have a beer at wreck beach anymore. Last summer when I was there the cops were pouring all the beer out in the sand. I live in a cramped apartment and sometimes you just want to have abeer outside, especially on a day like today.

    • These pretzels are making me thirsty

      Try Surrey instead

      • Or Mexico. Or Brazil. Or dozens of other countries where you can drink all you want on the beach. Vancouver is so uptight.

      • Joe_Blown_Away_By_High_Housing_Costs

        I live in Surrey! Cops are constantly patrolling the parks in Whalley. The city has even hired security guards to patrol the parks here. Plus there are citizen volunteer security guards with yellow shirts that patrol the parks. As soon as you crack open a beer, the cops are dispatched. Dianne Watts is serious about cleaning up Whalley. I think I’d have a better chance drinking in a park in Vancouver.

        (sorry for double post — I meant to reply to These pretzels are making me thirsty)

      • These pretzels are making me thirsty

        Thanks Joe_
        Actually, I was being sarcastic.

  16. Joe_Blown_Away_By_High_Housing_Costs

    I live in Surrey! Cops are constantly patrolling the parks in Whalley. The city has even hired security guards to patrol the parks here. Plus there are citizen volunteer security guards with yellow shirts that patrol the parks. As soon as you crack open a beer, the cops are dispatched. Dianne Watts is serious about cleaning up Whalley. I think I’d have a better chance drinking in a park in Vancouver.

  17. Yet again I’m reminded why I really, really love Halifax. People laugh and say it’s a backwater but hey… that’s what makes it a great place to live IMO.

  18. “From Australia or out east. Ick”

    What a moron.

  19. chumpay le chump

    dude, it is not just Vancouver, it is most places.

    I romanticize for the montreal neighborhood where i grew up. I started frequenting bars as soon as i turned 16 (everyone else did). drink in the parks, drink in the street, drink in your cars, drink at the fireworks,drink at the jazzfest, drink at any fest.

    Cities have become more crowded, and with it come more rules. Police are after more budget, and that requires they harass people more often to show they are doing some work.

    I agree that Vancouver was a lot friendlier when i arrived in 1995 (from the East via Whistler). It was also incredibly lame. Your westside kids did not have the time of day for anyone who did not grow up on the west side and attend one of 5 high schools. They had their inner circle and were uninterested in interlopers.

    The people were friendly but not nearly as friendly as people back in Montreal, or Toronto ( i have not been to Atlantic Canada so i cannot comment on them – but i have heard good things).

    We easterners made the best of the situation- opened bars and restaurants, started businesses, and generally improved the place. If you want to blame someone, blame yourself. You had the power to change this but did nothing.

  20. Six generations in van. Can stand the place anymore. Ruined by greed. Can’t wait for the reckoning.

  21. Agree with everyone – grew up on the westside and we all agree that something has been lost (besides all the character homes) My wife who also grew up on the westside did not like the vibe she got being here visiting family last month. I have to admit our neighborhood in Calgary feels more friendly and has a more of a “Leave it to Beaver” mentality. I really witnessed the absence of that community feeling just walking around Dunbar etc last month. But remember it is the BPOE! (lol)

  22. Funny, a friend of mine came back to YVR after 5 years away and commented on how little seems to have changed.

    Sometimes I think I have it all rong.

  23. Ah, another entry under “First World Problems”.

  24. vancouver renter

    31 years old Vancouver born and bred. Couldn’t agree more…

  25. Craig Sterling

    Lived on North Shore 1979-1987, came back for the first time in 24 years in 2011 with wife who had never been to Canada before. Breathtaking beauty, wonderful people, fantastic food, stratospheric property prices … which is what drove me to this blog, which i’ve been reading ever since!

  26. An UnconventionalResponse to “NoFunCouver”… Disgusted Householder prys HeritageHome loose from foundations, and Barges it to FantasyIsland… [NoteToEd: you cant make up this s**t]…

    [CBC] – Entire house moved out of Vancouver

    …”The house, built on the city’s West Side in 1915, had to be picked up, put on a massive trailer assembly and moved to a barge on the Fraser River.”…

    http://tinyurl.com/d4p2hnt

    • Nem -> You’re absolutely right, you can’t make this stuff up.
      The houses are leaving.

    • idea … instead of paying someone to knock down otherwise usable westside home, move them to lots in surrey and resell … create van west housing theme parks by moving whole neighborhoods … 🙂

    • Superlative, Chubster!… such a NovelSolution to the whole Vancouver StatusSignifier/AffordableHousing/NoFun conundrum… WinWinWin! And what a splendid performance opportunity for all those ‘Resting’ Thesps with time on their hands following the PlayHouseDemise…

      I can see it now… The CarnivalBarkers, The Attractions, The Concessions, TheCostumedCharacters!… Oh! TheGlorious Thrill of TheMidway!

      “WestSidePark. LiveTheDream… Today!”

      You’re on to something, Chub!

  27. Vancouver is a city that permitted overbuilding in the downtown core and railway lands, hasn’t invested in a transportation infrastructure, allowed urban sprawl up the Fraser Valley and hasn’t got to grips with its zoning. In the 70’s and 80’s it was a dream place. An idilic balance of activity and nature. Unfortunately Vancouver has cooked it’s goose.

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