Elitism And Sense Of Entitlement Linked To High Property Prices? – “The push for more exclusivity comes where the average house price is more than $1 million.”

“A battle is brewing in the village of Lions Bay, B.C., where some residents want to block beach access to people from outside the seaside community.
Lions Bay Beach Park is a picturesque destination with waves from Howe Sound breaking on the sand, two barbeques, manicured grass and a playground. A group of residents complained to village council last week that too many outsiders are using the space and argued for it to be “locals only.”
The push for more exclusivity comes where the average house price is more than $1 million, with a gated waterfront home going for more than $3 million.
“Of course it should be resident-only, we pay the taxes,” said Lions Bay resident Kambiz Azordegan. “The visitors come here and they never behave.”

– from ‘Lions Bay beach ban divides residents’, CBC, 19 Sep 2011

[Hat-tip to Zerodown for bringing this article to our attention, and who added “Guess where I’m going this afternoon?”]

The debate regarding restrictions on Lion’s Bay beaches appears to rage on, here’s a May 2012 pdf:
‘Moving Forward with Lions Bay Beach Parks’

25 responses to “Elitism And Sense Of Entitlement Linked To High Property Prices? – “The push for more exclusivity comes where the average house price is more than $1 million.”

  1. j, is your closet suite still for rent? …. meanwhile at the other end of the rainbow … elitism? … what? … move over ms. ph, the real heavies are out there now
    “The New First Family of Real Estate”
    … the whole read is punchline after punchline … have to pick a few …
    “At first, I showed her several properties but they weren’t grand enough,” he remembered, including a 36,000-square-foot French-style mansion on Sunset Boulevard now listed for $49.5 million. “When those earlier homes didn’t excite her, I saw very quickly that…she wanted the finest estate available, and that’s what she got.”
    “Her current home, which she plans to sell when her new place is ready, is decorated with photos of the family on ski vacations and at formal events, artwork by Damien Hirst and Anish Kapoor and a sculpture of a Hermes Birkin bag. A bedroom she’s converted into a closet is filled with her collection of Ugg boots and Louboutin heels. Wearing Lululemon yoga pants and a fitted hoodie, Ms. Ecclestone sat in her living room, overlooking an outdoor lap pool, and explained that she sees their real estate holdings as smart purchases.”
    “Ms. Ecclestone, who lives with her private investor boyfriend Omar Khyami and their six dogs, said she plans to move into her house in Kensington in October. Her renovation and expansion of the historic mansion requires about a dozen managers and 80 construction workers on site five days a week. ”
    “Mr. Ecclestone, whose daughters are often photographed wearing stiletto heels, towering over his 5-foot-3-inch frame, said that by giving them money now, “they will want to be independent and make their own money as they spend it.” “I think it’s better they make their own mistakes in the world and they’ll learn quicker,” he said,” … didn’t i read a while back about hugh grant lamenting all his trust fund buds were 100% fuck-ups … it’s like introducing your kids to heroin …
    “Last year Ms. Ecclestone starred in a reality program about her life called “Billion $$ Girl.” One episode depicted her taking her dogs to Harrod’s for facials and pedicures. Another shows her debating cancelling a meeting because she woke up with a pimple on her face.”

    • I think we can forgive her everything as she wears Lululemon.

      (I had to check to make sure you hadn’t added that point waggishly.)

      • waggish? … leave that to the big dogs … besides, there is no need to embellish anything these days … the news is the satire … also, forgot to note the vreaa-blog ironic nature of above article – leave it at that

      • “no need to embellish anything these days”


      • Aldus Huxtable

        Now if only we could get a film from Mike Judge about a real estate bubble.

  2. Sounds like a great park, I’ll have to go and visit!

    But seriously, I’d be very annoyed too – whether or not I’d think it was within my right to stop people from going there is another matter.

    • Agreed, nice park. I may visit today.

      • Hah, unofficial meeting ground for VREAA fan club ! Take that local property tax payers 😛

      • World class location. Everybody wants to be there. Get used to it. 😉

        Anyway, a public park is a public park. If it’s easy to access it will be full of people, if it’s really difficult to access, less people, and also the kind of people will be quite different.

    • Agreed, thanks for heads up, obviously if it is worth fighting for it must be nice… time for me to pack up the beach bag !

  3. some perhaps insight into that whole FB thing … 🙂

    Disclosing information about the self isintrinsically rewarding

    Humans devote 30–40%of speech output solely to informing others
    of their own subjective experiences. What drives this propensity for
    disclosure? Here, we test recent theories that individuals place high
    subjective value on opportunities to communicate their thoughts
    and feelings to others and that doing so engages neural and cognitive
    mechanisms associated with reward. Five studies provided support
    for this hypothesis. Self-disclosure was strongly associated
    with increased activation in brain regions that form the mesolimbic
    dopamine system, including the nucleus accumbens and ventral
    tegmental area. Moreover, individuals were willing to forgo money
    to disclose about the self. Two additional studies demonstrated that
    these effects stemmed from the independent value that individuals
    placed on self-referential thought and on simply sharing information
    with others. Together, these findings suggest that the human
    tendency to convey information about personal experience may
    arise from the intrinsic value associated with self-disclosure.

    Click to access Tamir-PNAS-2012.pdf

    • Person who speaks about themselves: “a Bore”.
      Person who speaks about others: “a Gossip”.
      Person who speaks about you: “a Good Conversationalist”.

      • “The only thing worse than being talked about is… not being talked about.” – Oscar Wilde

        …”Self-disclosure was strongly associated with increased activation in brain regions that form the mesolimbic dopamine system, including the nucleus accumbens and ventral tegmental area”… Motorcycles are good for that, too – with the added advantage that it’s virtually impossible to converse while operating one.

        As for youTubePoet & Trustafarian Kambiz Azordegan’s (you’ve got to admit, as monikers go – DouglasAdams couldn’t have done better) admonition “to behave”… one cannot help but chortle… upon reviewing Judge P. J. Phipp’s ruling against him (Court of Appeals of Georgia, 4th Division)… TeeHee.


  4. If my house were $100K or $1,000K I’d still be annoyed with a bunch of yahoos using the beach. This is more an epitome of the ongoing made-in-Canadian class struggle.

  5. wonder where HAL went …

  6. There is something just so basically wrong with thinking one can “own” the beach.
    Many years ago Vancouver decided that the beach and water views along Point Grey from Kits Point to Alma should belong to everyone. So it was ruled that any properties for sale must be sold to the city who would then tear them down and make parks out of them. The few pathetic (but still wonderful) parks along that stretch are a legacy of that policy. But a small group of powerful and rich citizens with some high powered legal help overturned that. So now the access and the view is the sole “right” of the rich property owners. As for the people: be thankful they haven’t privatized Kits Beach and Point–but wait a bit they’ll get there too.
    Revolution anyone?

  7. PS I used to live in Los Angeles and one of the many blights in that area is the cheek to jowl row of houses that runs for many miles up the PCH from Malibu to Zuma and beyond. What should be an exhilarating drive is made dreary by the endless rear end view of private homes.
    Occupy the Beaches!

  8. reality check

    In Canada you can’t own the beach but in the US you can

  9. Savary Island has been having some real issues with rich people buying there and despite laws against building on/ close to the beach, building private patios anyway. There is a tussle between the year-round, old-timer residents and the new money summer-only population as the latter want to restrict access/ use of the best beach area which is of course in front of their homes. It drives me crazy reading this stuff – reminds me of the people who cut down or poison trees in public parks that obscure their views with minimal penalties. Entitlement grrrrr.

  10. Watch the cliffs along Spanish Banks. The trees are going for some mighty expensive views. They can look down on the riff raff on the beaches.Let them eat sand!!!!!!

    • Yeah, the property owners on belmont above spanish banks own almost all the way to the road below. Some of the homes on the end of the street actually have private stairs to spanish banks, so unfortunately they can cut down whatever they want.

  11. Robert Dudek

    Restricting access to locals only for a PUBLIC park is anti-Canadian.

  12. Parks Canada and the BC govt can put security and maintenance on this public beach to ensure responsible public behavior and give the bill to Lions Bay. Sooner or later there will be a landslide, or some spill and Lions Bay will squeak that they need help. Waterways along the coast belong to Canada. If you don’t like it, move. Until then, we stand on guard for thee.

    Lions Bay, smarten up.

  13. We already fought this battle (and won) in Tsawwassen a few years back. There is a definite problem with making beaches private, ‘for residents only’; and that problem is the law of this land. According to the BC land titles act, public access MUST be provided to beaches every 200 metres or so — end of story. Regarding ‘who pays the taxes’, we all do, from Fort St John to Lion’s Bay, because beaches are PUBLIC property and inasmuch as they are maintained, it is from the public purse.

  14. craig mearns a council member in north saanich bc, said in a neighbourhood committee meeting two nights ago, that he believed the rich upland home owners had more rights than the public……F#@k him.

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