UBC Hospice Approved

‘Residents of this high-scale apartment building at 2688 West Mall UBC, like Janet Fan, here in Vancouver, B.C. on January 12, 2011, are outraged that a proposed hospice would be built next door to their building. The building is 80% Chinese extraction and there are major cultural implications with living next door to people that are dying.’ – from The Province, 3 Jun 2011

Noted here, for the record. We applaud UBC for this move, it took some courage. It was admirable for them to be able to separate issues of inter-cultural respect from those of personal expedience. We also applaud ‘The Province’ for using a photo that converts the mundane into something that is aesthetically pleasing. – vreaa

26 responses to “UBC Hospice Approved

  1. Plus the new half way house at 16th and Dunbar.
    How could the city be so insensitive to our Chinese benefactors?

    • Jim, how can the Chinese citizens be so insensitive to their Canadian benefactors??

      The day will come upon each and every one of you, where death will stare you in the face….maybe then, and only then will you show some heart and compassion.

  2. LOL at a million bucks per suite inthat highrise, I cansee these dopes losing half of it’s net worth. Locals cannot afford these and Asians will no longer be interested in buying these (they are highly superstitious) poooof in a cloud of smoke.
    No worries Rusty will pick em up at the cheap.

  3. terminalcitygirl

    Okay this is a little off topic but I have to say that apartment building is so just an apartment building. I love the honesty of the photo. Without the glitz/ glam/ lifestyle marketing pablum it is so ho-hum. I really can’t wrap my head around the fact that people pay more than a hundred thow or two to live there. Boring human containment system. Nothing special there. Although maybe in a few years some ghosts!!! They’ll add a little needed spice to the joint!

  4. Chalk one up for the good guys.

  5. We should take pause that it’s likely some of these residents are truly upset. It is unfair to take pleasure in this. I hope those unfamiliar with how the elderly and disabled are treated as equals with those of different races, religions, genders, and sexual orientations under the Charter can do a bit of research. It is unfortunate there has been so little mention of the Charter in all this because it is at the core of why these claims were rightly rejected.

    • It’s unfair to take pleasure in this, but there’s a reason why the Germans came up with the word “Schadenfreude”, especially when the residents’ misfortune is the result of their own mystical shibboleths and naked greed.

      • Perhaps, but it’s worth remembering that the concept of Charter is somewhat of a “foreign” concept to many, including those who were born in Canada. Until you’re hard up in these sorts of situations and don’t bother reading about the ongoing Charter cases in front of the courts and tribunals, I’m not surprised they feel shirked.

        But I agree with you; I have zero sympathy for the owners, but it doesn’t mean I revel in their misfortune. It’s more a sad state when they continue to effectively get a free pass in the media. In my view the media should be interviewing human rights activist and lawyer and asking them for why they think the complaints were dismissed. Instead we get loaded statements from UBC and I have to infer based on what they didn’t say. Why not just find a good reliable activist to come out and state the raw truth, that these people cannot tell elderly people where to live. It is fundamentally wrong and the MSM, once again, does a lazy reporting job by taking a statement from someone who wants to be heard.

        The story is the Charter, not the hospice. But that’s just me.

      • The core argument is this – as long as your neighbour is not doing something to limit your property rights and the property is properly zoned, then you don’t have the right to interfere. Dying does not constitute such an infringement.

      • “mystical shibboleths and naked greed” – Can I use that line, PP?! 😉

      • Nemesis, no problem…

        please use with attribution 😉

  6. Well put Jesse.

  7. The hospice building should be shaped like a giant 4, just to rub it in a bit 🙂

  8. Ralph Kramden

    Stick that in your Gwailo and smoke it.

  9. Why do these owners keep stirring the pot? They are causing ethnic tension.
    Worries about property values are actually baseless, as nobody can provide any evidence a hospice negatively affects them.

    Why do they want to offend their host country?

    • because they’re doing us a favor

      there’s lots of canadians that aren’t offended by this,
      since logically there are lots of canadians that simply don’t give a shit – about anything.

  10. The people who will need and use these hospice facilities are likely those who have lived here and paid their taxes a long time, are Canadian citizens, and have contributed to our society for many years.
    Are these new Canadians who hardly speak our language, even citizens of Canada? How much have they contributed to our society in the short time they have been here? The rich can easily move and choose to buy in areas “suitable” to them. The dying have fewer choices.
    UBC, build the hospice where it best suits our society.

  11. If I ever end up in that hospice I going to make a point of vomiting and expelling other fluids on that neighboring property, in fact I’d do everything I could to die in their lobby or on the eight floor.

  12. I agree with you, Jesse. I heard CBC radio talking about how the residents were pointing to things like the lack of a 13th floor in other buildings as other culturally supported superstitions: what no one said clearly in response was that floor numbering schemes don’t violate Charter rights. So the discussion is framed like “minority vs. majority” rather than a Canadian commitment to avoid discrimination against groups because we have stereotypes, feelings, or superstitions about them.

    And the more this sort of story comes up and gets framed as China vs. Canada, the more I think the same Charter is going to be important against anti-Chinese behaviour if the shit hits the fan.

    • and don’t forget,

      nipping chi-com party inroads into the deep voids of our national sovereignty that have been left by a declining u.s.a.

      devil you know or… the mystery box?

  13. I’m sympathetic to the need for the hospice in UBC, so I have no objections to it being built there. Likewise, I do not live near the proposed meth treatment facility on Dunbar and 16th, so I have have no objections to that either. However, I can easily understand if nearby residents do not want these facilities right next to their home. Even if a person is not superstituous, it is perfectly rational to want to protect the value of your property. Case in point, many of the residents objecting to the meth facility on Dunbar are Caucasian. NIMBY is a universal trait of property ownership; it is not a cultural phenomenon. If these people feel that their property is being negatively affected by these developments, then it is entirely rational for them to speak up. The thing I find odd are the number of people who seem to take delight in the problems that the predominantly Asian UBC condo owners are having. These same critics do not seem to have much bad to say about the Caucasians who have been fighting the arrival of Dunbar meth facility tooth and nail. Is the underlying sentiment behind the criticism of the UBC condo owners fundamentally pro-hospice, or merely anti-Chinese? I have a hard time believing there are that many hospice-crusaders out there on this forum for whom this is a relevant personal cause. Has it become acceptable to be a racist here as long as it’s all in the cause of being a real estate bear?

    • No, NIMBY is not a good thing. Just because a lot of people feel that way does not make it right. My personal cause is against all NIMBYs. I want a city that is more than luxury condos.

    • BTW condo NIMBYs have also been responsible for shutting down music and sporting events. They can crush a city’s culture.

      They can also stand in the way of industry and economic progress. Right now we are losing industrial land to condos, and we will suffer for that in the long run.

    • 4SlicesofCheese

      They absolutely have the right to protest about anything they want, thats their right, but doesn’t mean they will win.
      Also, if you believe what they are saying, they are mainly protesting the fact there will be ghosts haunting them, not property values, although I believe some of them in inadvertently slipped out a mention of property values, which I believe is true reason for the protests.

      If they originally just came out and said oh we don’t want it cause it would affect our house values instead of bringing up cultural beliefs and people being insensitiev to chinese cultures and then sob stories of how most are single parents while husband is overseas working to support them in their 1 million dollar condo, and dad has to be a taxi driver etc, maybe people would have actually supported them.

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