Handcrafted Spam


Yuck!

The following 18 comments all appeared on VREAA over a 4 hour period last night [26-27 Sep 2012], each on a different thread, and all from a commenter using the handle ‘Joe Manhas’. They all attempt to promote ‘bchomez.com’, a site that sells BC RE. Impressive work. The comments are distracting, particularly once one takes note of their motivation, and they have all been removed from the respective threads. But they are preserved here en masse as an example of what folks are doing to promote Vancouver RE related activity at this stage in the cycle. ‘Joe’ now joins ‘Fred’, up to now the only poster specifically cited on our spam filter. – vreaa

Submitted on 2012/09/26 at 10:19 pm
Sounds crazy, but Vancouver is one of the most livable cities in the world they say… http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/26 at 10:23 pm
I understand that there are 5005 units coming downtown.. these developers wouldn’t be investing so much money into these projects unless they were confident that they could sell them… http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/26 at 10:29 pm
What happen to the days when people lived within their means? Vancouver isn’t cheap however if you want a nice house, maybe you can spend a little less on the cars.. Tough to live a steak and champagne lifestyle on a beer – Mac N’ Chess budget.. http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/26 at 10:32 pm
Make sense.. we all love things that are free.. http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/26 at 11:37 pm
They say money don’t grow on trees… Not for these anymore.. http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 12:30 am
The bubble is only bursting because the Government wants it to burst.. It’s not hard to slow down the machine when you got this wrench that that keeps tightening and tightening… Also when the government turns off the immigration tap, if only a trickle is getting through wouldn’t expect things to slow down? Once that wrench is gone and the tap is turned on full blast we’ll be back to a blazing hot market… Buy Now!! http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 12:34 am
Sounds like the property was bought to high and sold to low… Next time be a little more aggressive negotiating a better deal and work the deal harder on the selling side.. http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 12:41 am
Your poorer than you think? People in Vancouver have made huge money in real estate.. Do you think all those millionaires around Vancouver made it by working 9-5.. We’ve had an incredible run.. still big money to be made.. http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 12:46 am
Your House Is A Big Fridge, a place to store stuff?? Its a place to live and a place to retired after it builds equity for 20 years… Houses go up in value over time, fridges depreciate.. http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 12:48 am
Sugar Coat sorta… As they say what goes up must come down… the flip side is also true what goes down must come up.. Buy Now .. http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 12:55 am
The sale of you own person home is one of the few tax free opportunities we have as Canadians, downsizing, upsizing or other, just remember not to do it too often as the government might see this as a business of re-selling property apposed to selling for personal reasons.. http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 12:58 am
know the rules, play by the rules.. if your going to break them don’t get caught http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 1:04 am
If don’t like “Honda” can you take a Toyota instead? http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 1:10 am
I agree.. the government is intentanally killing the market.. what ever happen to the Adam Smith theory of letting the market take care of it’s self… Too much government interference .. http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 1:17 am
I bet in the 3 house sales the profit was enough to take ten trips. http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 1:24 am
In for the long haul… Real Estate in most places is for the long haul.. Vancouver real estate market has given the average investor (with money) to make huge gains in short periods of time. Huge money can be made on the down slide as well. By now http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 1:29 am
Vancouver as a safe, long-term place to park some money when it comes to real estate. We owe a lot to those around the world that have help Vancouver residents become millionaires by buying holding and selling.. http://bchomez.com

Submitted on 2012/09/27 at 1:40 am
As rough as the stats might show, Vancouver will rebound.. this is the time to buy while real estate is cheap… http://bchomez.com

38 responses to “Handcrafted Spam

  1. Haha, anytime someone references a commercial site while trying to make it look like the comment is adding to the conversation gets a delete over on housing-analysis. I’ve made an exception once or twice when someone actually states something novel.

  2. Yep. Definitely a cultist.

  3. it is a good site though.. maybe someone can script-crawl this one to generate useful data to keep track of price declines…. volunteers?

  4. You’ve got to wonder at the guy’s intelligence…he comes to a blog that is mostly populated by bearish commentators & spends several hours posting stuff in the hope of driving business to his home-selling website. Doesn’t strike me as an effective use of his time but I guess BC home sellers have a LOT of time on their hands right now!

    Or maybe it is F1 ‘in disguise’.

  5. thanks, i missed out … does have that lovely hand-crafted cheapo feel … a system D nigerian contractor perhaps? … i think i would like to meet this joe and his manhas (lol) … meanwhile, my spam – try taxing this, garth

    A quarter of all Spanish workers are unemployed and tens of thousands have been evicted from their homes since a housing bubble birst in 2008 and plummeting consumer and business sentiment tipped the country into a four-year economic slump.

    http://tinyurl.com/8fyn2mu

  6. i misbehaved … comment_purgatory = 1, sir_ma’am

  7. CAN YOU SAY “AGENDA”

  8. Of some concern is a recent observed uptick in targeted personal malicious trolling. If prices get really nasty I would suggest one gird one’s loins. Housing crashes ruin lives in harsh ways, after all.

  9. Maybe we should all go to the site, request showings and let them go there and wait for us :)

  10. Manipulated comments made by the blog owner. Sort of like the Gov’t who manipulates GOLD/SILVER/INTEREST RATES/stockmarkets/elections/..eventually it all FAILS/DIES/COLLAPSES/crumbles/goes back to zero..
    All manipulations eventually come to a complete and utter disaster..ARE you ready?

  11. This can be:
    - a troll
    - a guy who is picking on Joe
    Just downvote it…

  12. Ahh, memories of Hawaii…thank you VREAA!

  13. Desperation is quietly creeping into the picture out there, only the beginning. Clearly this flipper is long homez.

  14. There he is:

  15. joe_blown_away_by_high_housing_costs

    How did this article go undiscussed on this blog?!

    http://www.theprovince.com/mobile/news/vancouver/Vancouver+Mayor+Gregor+Robertson+soon+have+task+force+investigate/7296329/story.html

    “Over 60 per cent of residents aged 25 to 34 see Vancouver as “a resort for the wealthy,” with “too much foreign ownership,” according to the survey.

    Frustration around housing is leading many to incorrectly place the blame on foreign owners from Asia, according to Reimer.

    “There is a strong tension around race,” Reimer said. “We have to get ahead of that.”

    You can count me as being among the 60% of 25-34yos who think Vancouver has too much foreign ownership.

    I think it is pretty rude how Reimer just totally dismisses the opinion of 60% of this key demographic. Where does she get off to say these people are INCORRECT to lay blame with foreign ownership?! Vision Vancouver et al keep saying “SHOW ME THE PROOF” when it comes to foreign ownership. They say there is no data on foreign ownership in Vancouver real estate so we don’t know to what extent foreigners have driven up prices. Okay, so how did we-don’t-know-we-have-no-data go to being we-do-know-that-foreigners-have-not-driven-up prices?! If we don’t have the data that means we don’t know!!! We can’t say either way that it is CORRECT or INCORRECT that foreigners have driven up prices.

    The fact that Reimer is so quick to say it is INCORRECT to blame foreign ownership just proves the we-don’t-have-the-data line is just a convenient excuse to avoid dealing with this issue. They don’t care to get the data because they don’t want to know the extent to which foreigners have driven up prices. It creates cognitive dissonance for politically correct lefties who want to do something about housing affordability but also want to play into the identity politics rhetoric that posits immigrants/racial minorities are underprivileged and can never be found to be in positions of privilege and economic power.

    • The important thing is that the mayor will create a “task force”. If there is a problem, they will try to brainwash you into thinking that the problem does not exist. Happy happy happy!
      How detached from reality are these people?

    • Nobody wants to discuss the nasty implications of the currently obvious correlation between race and wealth in Vancouver. You need to go to Australia to listen to this discussion.

      Based on well-established trends, in just 20 years, only 15% of the 25-34 yo Vancouver demographic will think there’s “too much foriegn ownership” in Vancouver. Eventually, the “problem” goes away with the change in this specific regional demographic.

      • It’s not a race thing. It’s communist thieves who hollowed out state owned enterprises in their home country and transferred the money abroad.

        More than a million public servants have sent large sums abroad.

        Similar thing happened in the 90′s in Europe with thieves from former Soviet Union and other formerly communist countries.

      • Two of the well-established trends which nobody in Vancouver will want to discuss in relation to race and wealth (afterall, it’s just statistics):

        http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/91-002-x/2012002/t330-eng.htm

    • joe_blown_away_.. -> Headlined.

    • joe, the City doesn’t want to deal with foreign ownership because 1) it is a vote loser 2) it’s unclear how enforceable it is and 3) the concept of “foreign ownership” is not black and white.

      The task force actually did propose some interesting things. The ones I thought will be a positive (albeit, ironically, not for affordability) for the City in the longer term are:
      1) Allowing more density along arterial routes, the only major hurdle is showing some (and not necessarily a majority of) community support. This will probably increase density along some corridors but will leave certain neighbourhoods untouched. Some regular commenters here can comment about their specific areas to gauge how successful this will be. There are allusions that the Broadway corridor is going to be of interest for future development as it is slated for future transit enhancements beyond the already-stretched B-Line (no pun intended)
      2) Giving priority for purpose-built rentals and other land trusts (i.e. perpetual leases) that in effect remove land speculation from purchase decisions on these builds. That is, people can live in Vancouver with secured tenure at reduced (or market) rent but will forgo any capital gains on the land component of their purchase. I think this is one of the few ways I have seen that can be used to quench speculation in a city that seems powerless to control its gambling impulses.
      3) Starting to require legal suites in all “detached” builds; this may be a move to fill in the semilegal suite loophole.

      If you haven’t noticed, things aren’t exactly selling well in Van West recently. Maybe that will change but the clouds looming over parts of Asia in the coming years are very black. I am not certain about it by any means but it looks like some tough times for many Vancouver residents — part time or full time ones — who derive their incomes from real estate activity. Already there are clues that the federal government is taking action on this. I have little doubts that some people in certain Vancouver neighbourhoods have brought the subject up with those “of influence” behind the scenes and we are already seeing some movement.

      Not that I know anything more than is published on blogs or in the MSM.

      On a completely unrelated note, the Japanese tsunami is in the news again for more washed-up debris on the west coast of Vancouver Island. That event is interesting to me because that event marked the peak of Richmond’s housing market. An interesting coincidence if nothing else.

  16. A little bit of information about Joe Manhas:

    1) He lives in Vancouver and owns lots of property.

    2) He has been a realtor for over 5 years with Sutton: http://www.sutton.com/realtor/jmanhas

    3) Besides BCHomez.com, he also runs a company called the “Solomon Academy” at http://www.solomonacademy.org – which is apparently some sort of tutoring business

  17. Seriously, if I wanted to make a particular business look stupid, I would post such comments under their name. Well OK, I wouldn’t actually do that, as it is dirty and underhanded. But if I wanted to be dirty and underhanded….

    I’ve gone over to bchomez (seriously? “bchomez”???) and tried to imagine which of those (mostly) well-groomed realtors pictured was the one to post all those asinine comments. Of course it is impossible to tell by looking at pictures. Maybe they all cooperated on it? Maybe they all arrive at the office in the in the morning to a Boiler Room-type atmosphere, and it’s like, “OK, it’s Wilson’z turn to man the Internetz today and start countering some of that bearizh zentiment we’ve been hearing lately. The rezt of you, get out there and ZELL THOZE HOMEZ!!!”

  18. here is the really funny part. his partner on the site. the both of them got started in sales working the phones in a bolier room shifting canadian lottery tix by any means necessary onto senior citizens in the UK

  19. I had a run in with this Joe person’s associate who goes by the name Rimpy… she advertises on bus benches with him at least. I didn’t care for her much either. In a couple of conversations i had with her, she repeatedly stated, “I made a quarter million dollars last year”, “I am a top 2% realtor”, and get this, “I own 12 houses”….. ? My friend and I were blown away with the arrogance of these statements… note to self, never buy a home from this Joe dude or his associates.

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