A Realtor Sells A House To Himself In North Vancouver – “The untangible feeling of pride of homeownership I feel is overwhelming and I strive to work harder and longer to make sure my clients achieve the same exciting, rewarding, and satisfying experience!”

“This past week I made the highly anticipated move from my condo to my first house on beautiful Cortell Street in North Vancouver. The new house is a very well maintained, updated character cottage from 1928, with extensive kitchen and bathroom renovations.

The Location is one of the finest in North Vancouver, in the quite and sunny southern pocket of Pemberton Heights, 2 blocks from Capilano Elementary with its coveted IB program. The yard is a gardener’s dream, landscaped and set up with an irrigation system and automatic lighting. The garage is tiny, but my truck just fits in it:). Some of my favourtite features are the classic hardwood floors; the fully renovated kitchen with Viking Gas Convection Stove; the loft with skylghts and views; the many species of birds that call the magical garden home; the protected Royal Walnut Tree in the front yard that I’m forbidden by the District of North Van to touch; the gas fireplace; an exposed brick wall; large south-facing wood deck; the antique claw-foot soaker tub; and the detailed door fixtures, built in cupboards, and wainscoting.

The windows, electrical, furnace, on-demand hot water supply, and roof have all been replaced in the past 6 years. The neighbourhood is a charming mix of cute and character, ultra modern, and brand new masterpieces. My west-side neighbour’s house is currently being gutted, there is a handsome new custom mansion across the street, and 2 brand new houses being built on Cortell, so for a Realtor who loves homes, I feel like a kid in a candy store:). Speaking of candy stores, 2 blocks away is the infamous Corner Store, a Pemberton Heights landmark serving up great coffee, sandwiches, groceries, and snacks in a warm neighbourhood environment.

I am thrilled to have the talented eye of Missy Kaniuk from Design Project in charge of the re-design of the main level & renovations to the basement! We are going to paint the wainscotting white, and the wall in the living room and entrance a tope/grey/olive tone, the office a tope green with white baseboards, and the bedroom white with a dark wood door and window trim, using paint by Benjamin Moore. The exterior will be white with blue or charcoal trim and ‘fire-truck red’ front door. In the long term, I want to refinish the floors a dark oak & install crisp white crown moulding in the bedroom, den, and bathroom!

The downstairs has a finished bathroom but the rest is exposed framing, washer/dryer, furnace, and a work shop. I am planning on renovating the basement so the walls and ceiling are finished with electric heat, pot lights, new washer/dryer, guest kitchenette, and a bedroom. With the help of a great plumber, electrician, framer, and Rona I hope to create an additional 650 sq ft of finished living space. The main challenge is the uneven floor which will require a skilled leveler (which I will be meeting on Saturday morning – Basement design details to come, stay tuned!).

Upstairs will be a guest room & office on the dreamy East side of the loft , and a TV room on the West Side to enjoy the city/ocean views.

Follow my blog for updates on the reno and life as a homeowner! The untangible feeling of pride of homeownership I feel is overwhelming and I strive to work harder and longer to make sure my clients achieve the same exciting, rewarding, and satisfying experience!”

- Realtor Stu Bell, at his blog stubell.com, 24 Nov 2011
[hat-tip to reader who e-mailed the link]

That ‘untangible feeling of pride’ is one factor contributing to the ‘ownership premium’, the amount that one is prepared to pay for a home over and above the cost of renting it. Stu clearly gets a great deal of pleasure out of owning this home, and his personal ‘ownership premium’ is likely substantial (whether he had to pay more than rent equivalent to purchase this house or not). One wouldn’t want to get into a bidding war with this kind of buyer for a home on which their heart was set.
The story is saved here as a fairly intense example of the current Vancouver love affair with home ownership. We believe that this infatuation is closely related to rising prices, and that the feelings will become less intense when prices are falling.

“Will you still need me?
Will you still feed me?
When I’m 64(%-of-the-price-you-bought-me-for)?”

- vreaa

[For another recent example of related emotions, see the TV announcer exchange at "Real Estate stories are always great, they never get tiring, you know?"]

42 Responses to A Realtor Sells A House To Himself In North Vancouver – “The untangible feeling of pride of homeownership I feel is overwhelming and I strive to work harder and longer to make sure my clients achieve the same exciting, rewarding, and satisfying experience!”

  1. Quick, give this boy a hanky, he is about to explode….

  2. Just…nauseating.

  3. This guy sounds like Froogle Scott on Benzedrine. But I bet ol’ Froogle would’ve figured out how to level his own basement floor. I miss Froogle.

    • We miss him, too.
      Co-incidentally he has just yesterday sent along an e-mail, breaking a substantial period of radio-silence, and readers will be pleased to hear that he is working on episode 10 of the Froogle Scott Chronicles; date of arrival as yet undetermined. It sounds like it will be a multifaceted piece, and we’re looking forward to seeing it.

      Froo-gle, Froo-gle..!
      (Given what is happening globally, in particular in Europe at present, perhaps this should be the cry of our times.)

  4. “Follow my blog for updates on the reno and life as a homeowner!”

    That sounds like a good read.

  5. “my first house”

    Well he is a Realtor.

    I assume if he’s selling to himself he’s paying himself as well.

    • Yes, when realtors buy and sell properties, one would imagine there must be a substantial reduction in the overall transaction cost.
      Can anybody quantify this for us?
      What percentage of a property price does it cost to buy a place (once all commissions, transfer fees, etc, etc are factored in) for (a) a realtor, (b) a non-realtor, Vancouver 2011?

      • yltnboomerang

        I’ve always wondered about this as my plan has always been to write the realtor exam when I feel it’s the right time to buy as the cost of the course is surely less than what you will save on commissions. Add to this the benefit of being versed in all the legalities and rules surrounding such a major purchase.

      • I had the same thought. Taking a 6 weeks leave from work without pay to become a realtor is surely cheaper than paying a realtor’s transaction fee.

        However, I believe there are a few more complications. You may need to join a brokerage before you can complete the transaction, etc.

  6. Seeing that the “warm meighbourhood environment” of the “infamous Corner Store, a Pemberton heights landmark,” is so crazily near, one would expect dear old Stu to have paid a pretty penny for this creaky 80-year-old relic. Is the price of this borderline tear-down mentioned anywhere? Did I miss it?

  7. By the way, readers, we’ll voice a request here that we keep ‘ad hominem’ criticism out of our discussions, here and elsewhere, and address the central meat of these issues.
    In this case, the issue is infatuation with ownership, and high ownership premium. The individual featured above is just one example of a city wide phenomenon.
    I know this may appear to be a fine line, but let’s respect it.

    (We don’t want discussion to get unnecessarily nasty.
    The market itself is nasty enough as it is.)

    • That could explain why my comment from earlier is still sitting in limbo? If so, my apologies for crossing the line.

      [kc -> Yeah. Your comment was arguably benign as well as valid, but also took the discussion away from content stated above. Apologies for the intrusion, we try to moderate as little as possible. - ed.]

  8. “when I’m 64!”
    ROFL.
    Well done, V!

  9. There is no way I would ever buy now in this crazy real estate market, but honestly, that house is perfect. I would love to live in a place like that. I wish the fans of monster houses would see how charming and liveable having a big yard and garden can make a home. I live in the Dunbar area, and most of the new houses only have a tiny sliver of ‘yard’, usually without landscaping and often concrete or gravel. They don’t look welcoming at all. If he doesn’t have a crippling mortgage, I’m sure he will be very happy there.

    • I agree, that could be a nice place to live, taking into account the issues with an older house.

      And the giddy enthusiasm? A bit over the top maybe, bordering on unsound, but it’s mostly the lovestruck language that’s a bit annoying.

      The anecdote itself doesn’t actually go into issues of price / ownership premium / “good investment” which is refreshing. If that house was $250k there would be the odd warning about future problems with foundation or roof, but otherwise a completely different story.

  10. I didn’t “get” the feeling of pride of ownership – I got “hey, look at me and my brilliant forward thinking plans of flipping this house – maybe by mentioning all the brands on my blog I can get a deal, perhaps Rona will advertise on my blog”. Also, he’s putting in an illegal basement suite – has he thought about permits, plans filed with the city or is he just contemplating a payoff when he sells. (Also – spelling!!! tope = taupe; untangible = intangible).

  11. Meanwhile, elsewhere in Lala Land, certain columnist/bloggers actually think that futher government involvement in development (etc.) can avert the oncoming freight train:

    http://www.citycaucus.com/2011/12/creating-more-affordable-housing-takes-out-of-wood-frame-box-thinking

    It would be laughable if it weren’t so sad.

  12. OMG. That’s in our neighbourhood. I know this place really well. About the only good thing I have to say about this sale is that so far he hasn’t knocked it down to replace it with the typical monster house.

    Ironically, the owners sold this home, took their profit and moved to a smaller community in the BC interior because they felt that Vancouver was ridiculously overpriced and that they were not getting value for their property taxes :)

    • I know someone that did something similar in… ’09-ish. Sold in Van and moved to a small BC town. I hope they are happy but I suspect they have a few regrets what with how their old neighbourhood as done value-wise ($), vis-a-vis their new one.

      • It’s unfortunate for your acquaintances if they are unhappy with the move, but unless they’re planning on selling up and moving back, I doubt the really lost out. Besides, the whole argument of “my house went up by X!” is absolutely worthless unless you actually sell the damn place and live somewhere else.

        These owners have no regrets. $5k per year in property taxes as compared to less than $2K for the same services? No more insanely stupid traffic? Huge amount of free cash? Smart move, says I.

  13. And, one more for good measure.

    In the “You Gotta Have Faith” file, one of my GVRD relatives tells me that certain churches in the Surrey/Delta/White Rock area are selling off their current land (and buildings) in order to buy empty land zoned for housing, etc.

    The plan is to build some sort of housing/retail development (in partnership with a developer) and use the revenues to finance a new building and church operations at the new site.

    I don’t know the names of the organizations involved, or the fine details. But this is how it was napkin-sketched to me. I did mention that I thought that this was a knuckleheaded thing for a church to do… churches as real estate speculators seems a bit bizarre to me. But, it’s Vancouver. Bizarre is tne new normal.

    I am reminded of similar stories that I heard in the US when the bubble popped there. Quite a few speculative churches have gone bankrupt.

    • “churches as real estate speculators seems a bit bizarre to me.”…

      Funny you should say that, E.G. – because it’s long been an invaluable component ‘o their institutional ‘schtick’… 2 Millenia and counting, actually.

      [NPR] – Catholic Church To Buy Famed [Bankrupt] Crystal Cathedral MegaChurch

      “When the Crystal Cathedral declared bankruptcy last year, it soon became clear that the legendary building would have to be sold. There were several offers, but in the end, the church’s board favored the Catholic diocese in Orange County. Sheila Schuller Coleman, the cathedral’s pastor, said in a videotaped message that it was the best way to save the church. “The Catholic plan affords us the possibility of continuing all of our wonderful, beautiful ministries,” she says. “And we all know that a church is not a building.”…

      http://tinyurl.com/bu4dflz

      NoteToEd: Nem’s ‘leader’ would have been, “From Hour ‘O Power To Power ‘O Sale: One Televangelists’ Divine Retribution (italicize divine)…

    • I heard that the Anglican Diocese is in a legal tangle with one of its Westside churches. Rumor is the parish is trying to break away partly to cash-in on the valuable land on the church.

      • “on the church”=”under the church” :P

      • The break-aways (homophobic jerks who disagreed with the church’s decision to allow women bishops) lost their battle to gain any part of the church assets.

  14. “the same exciting, rewarding, and satisfying experience!”….

    Which, according to none other than the Bank ‘O Canada… is about to become suddenly rather less exciting, rewarding and satisfying…

    [G&M] – Bank of Canada warns condo boom could be ending

    “The Bank of Canada has a warning for condo investors – the boom times may be over. In its December economic review, the central bank said that “certain areas” of the housing market could see prices fall as the economy weakens. “Certain areas of the national housing market may be more vulnerable to price declines, particularly the multiple-unit segment of the market, which is showing signs of disequilibrium,” the bank warned.”…

    http://tinyurl.com/83zmlfp

    • That’s all part of their risk analysis and stress test scenarios. You know, the stuff that never happens.

      One might eventually think a risk premium isn’t free money after all.

  15. I wonder how may people bought Nortel at $500/ share? Just a random thought.

  16. “of the current Vancouver love affair with home ownership”

    aren’t you and the rest of the people here having love affair with home ownership hence this blog has existed for almost four years? well, there’s nothing to do about it now except bitching about not having home ownership.

    • i want to own a home

      but not get ripped off

      current prices are a rip off. why?

      critical analysis (&lulz) is not whining.

      if you want to hear whining, listen to the wind when the first 10% dip occurs..

  17. Wow that’s a nice looking house

  18. Wow….

    “on-demand hot water supply” . what a luxury ! Don’t know any home having those !

    “irrigation system” yes, makes a lot of sense where it rains most of the year. Sp. in North Vancouver. It will be used 2-4 times/year. And good luck winterizing it …

    “mix of cute and character, ultra modern, and brand new masterpieces”, ???? a mess of styles.

    “untangible pride of ownership, overwhelming”…. well the sugar high and love affair will last a few weeks, then it will be routine and defects will start to be noticed .. but the debt won’t go away for decades and won’t let you sleep at night… that should be advice for his customers.

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