Spot The Speculator #61a – “We have friends who recently bought a place because “they didn’t want to waste money on rent”. They put 7% down, and a month later bought a car. Now on a tight budget.”

“We have friends who recently bought a place because “they didn’t want to waste money on rent” Even after we told them the pros and cons of renting. They put 7% down, and a month later bought a car.
Dad has decent paying job, mom is stay at home mom, similar household income as my wife, who does not work at the moment, and I.
Originally our friend’s wife told my wife their monthly budget for food was 1200 a month. Which we thought was tight for a family of 3. Turns out we misunderstood, 1200 a month includes utilities, cell phone bills, internet (no cable), and who knows what else.
This was a shocker to us. Sure you can do it, but to have such a tight budget and the majority of money going to your mortgage is it really worth it? What if the dad loses his job?
Sure, some can say if you have our mentality you will never own anything. But before, even if you lost your job, you would probably have a safety net of savings. But with today’s prices, most new families are maxed when they buy in, and have no ability to save anything. All the eggs in one basket.”

- 4SlicesOfCheese VREAA 16 Oct 2011 10:18am

9 Responses to Spot The Speculator #61a – “We have friends who recently bought a place because “they didn’t want to waste money on rent”. They put 7% down, and a month later bought a car. Now on a tight budget.”

  1. 4SlicesofCheese

    And this was before I saw the Suns article. How sad..

    • Originally our friend’s wife told my wife their monthly budget for food was 1200 a month. Which we thought was tight for a family of 3.

      I have to ask: Why would food for three be tight on a $1200 budget? I have fed 2 people for $100/week and that wasn’t scraping by on KD, even if it would be $200/week for three you still wouldn’t come close to $1200/month for food.

      • $1200 for a family is do-able if you never eat out, are all lactose intolerant, vegetarian, hate bread, and you and/or your partner are a recovering alcoholic with an aversion to coffee and fresh fruit. But I guess if you had an aversion to coffee, you wouldn’t be living in rain city.

        People who say they can feed a family of 4 on $500 per month haven’t done a budget in 5 years.

        “Yeah right, and I spend only 40$/month on gasoline based on my estimates” – then you add up all your receipts for the tax year. “Oh my, I guess the $40/month must have been 10 years ago.”

      • 4SlicesofCheese

        I replied to similar question here.

        ” diablo | 16 October 2011 at 10:30 am | Reply

        we spend less than less than 600.00/month on food for a family of four. I don’t see that you can spend 1200.00 on food unless you’re eating out 1/2 the time.

        4SlicesofCheese | 16 October 2011 at 11:03 am | Reply

        We love to cook and we love to eat out at expensive and inexpensive restaurants. What can I say, we love food.

        Maybe we spoil ourselves, but why should I be sorry for that? Even with our food budget we are able to save and invest every month.

        The difference is we can cut back on our food spending, they can not.”

        So yeah some people like to splurge on interest payments, I like to splurge on food and live a little, and I save every month.

  2. $1200 for a family is do-able if you never eat out, are all lactose intolerant, vegetarian, hate bread, and you and/or your partner are a recovering alcoholic with an aversion to coffee and fresh fruit. But I guess if you had an aversion to coffee, you wouldn’t be living in rain city.

    We are a family of three and we eat all these things, are not vegetarian, and eat well – and spend about $750-$850 a month (I last did a detailed budget in Q1-2011). It is true that we do not often eat out and we love to cook. Of course we live in the GTA, where prices are a bit lower.

  3. 4SlicesOfCheese
    While I agree with the bulk of your sentiments, the idea that $1,200 per month for food for a family of three could be considered “tight” is absurdly detached from reality.

    • 4SlicesofCheese

      Fair enough. To each their own.

      We actually record everything we spend and our budget for groceries and eating out and some other small household expenses are around the 1100 dollars mark for two people. We are able to do this and save cause our housing expenses are low.
      What can I say I like fine food and drinks.

      I am not saying everyone will spend what we spend, its our choice, but they used to have similar habits as us.

      So to have such a big drop in food budget should not be easy ( although not impossible). But the question is, is it worth it, and like I said I can cut back on food spending if I want to. They can’t.

    • We spend 10% of $1200 per month just on milk. The other $1100 goes just as quickly especially if you include regular coffee and lunch purchases when on the job. Try finding even a decent take-out lunch for 5$ these days. And I never frequent Starbucks or the rest of the high brow coffee shops. The whole purpose of doing a budget is to make sure you are able to meet your financial goals. $1200 per month is a very reasonable budget for a family of 4 and if you can’t spend this monthly amount on food for you and your family, then you obviously need to dump your mortgage.

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