Tanya Beja, of Global TV, would like to hear from readers who have sold their Vancouver homes and now rent:
“I work with Global TV, and I am a regular follower of your blog. I’m doing a story next week comparing renting vs. buying in today’s market, and am wondering if you know of anyone, or have contact info for anyone, who may have sold their property in the past year or so in order to rent instead? This is part of a week-long series examining the high-cost of living in BC.
Thanks so much,
Tanya Beja
Global TV”
tanya.beja@globalnews.ca
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The irony of this request was not lost on us, given our past criticism of Global’s poor and industry-serving coverage of our housing bubble. For a moment we considered waggishly suggesting that Tanya talk to Gord Goble, who meets the description of recent-owner-come-renter but is also someone who has actively taken Global to task for their faux-news-reporting on local RE issues.
We responded saying we could post a request to readers, adding “You guys may follow VREAA but, boy, your reports sure don’t reflect that. How about a Global piece on how the relative “high-cost of living in BC” is almost entirely attributable to a speculative mania in housing? That really is the case, and history will prove that viewpoint correct.”
Tanya responded: “My goal with this series is to get a snapshot of what’s happening to first-time buyers. I’m not intending to forecast the future, but at least with the renting story I do hope to challenge the idea that buying real estate in yvr is always a ‘smart investment’.”
So, in that spirit, let’s try to help her out, and see if Global can in any way redeem themselves before judgment day. (Melodrama intentional.)
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This is going to be so interesting, especially when you read the blog entry that is above this one. “Subprime Canada” LOL
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Tanya, you describe yourself as a regular follower of this blog. If that’s true – and I have no reason to believe it isn’t – one would think your personal views must clash mightily with the ridiculously slanted realtor advertising-driven cheerleading your employer (and every other regional MSM “news” outlet) has continuously aired throughout the build-up to this obvious bubble peak.
I sincerely hope this piece will reflect reality. Hard to believe it will when “This segment is sponsored by Re/Max.” But if it does, my proverbial hat is off to you. It would take a hell of a lot of guts for Global to be the first local MSM news outlet and for you to be the first MSM reporter to really hit this topic hardcore and tell it like it is. Guaranteed, you’ll look like a beacon of truth as this bubble comes apart and as local residents, already stretched to their limits, are pushed beyond those limits by owing much, *much* more than their homes are worth.
It’s going to be ugly regardless, but maybe you can derail a wee bit of that ugliness and save a few from financial ruin.
BTW, I am a former owner who, completely by choice, now rents. My friends think I’m nuts because they’ve been brainwashed over the course of decades that ownership is next to godliness, even in environments where ownership sucks away every spare cent, and even in environments where, logically, values can only decline. Yet it’s *easily* been one of the smartest, most happiness-inducing moves I’ve ever made.
My gut feeling is this going to be a “Renters are Losers who have Missed the Boat” piece… It’s like expecting the Republicans to shoot a “Islam is a Great and Peaceful Religion” documentary.
Tanya, you need to do a segment with a psychologist that specializes in “manias” and how real estate in BC is built on nothing but that. Anyone with half a brain can see that the prices cannot keep up and even Bank of Montreal’s economist agrees. Every market is driven by the emotions of fear and greed, the latter has clearly overrun it’s course. If I could invest in psychologists like a stock I would be loading the boat as the demand for their services will soon be through the roof as the wheels come off this bloated pig.
For the record I have owned several houses in my life, been through the crash in 1981 and believe me it was ugly, 30 – 50% haircuts were common. This time way more people will be hurt with all the subprime CMHC free money that few today could even qualify for and were considered the highest of risk to lend to. I hope you write an honest script and not be swayed by the ReMax’s who have no one’s best interest but their own.
As much as I see the need for a real estate correction, I’d hate to be the face that burst the bubble.
If you want to get people’s emotions riled up, profile a family “living above their means” by renting. Show them enjoying expensive dinners, skiing, etc. with their monthly savings, and show how absolutely relaxed they are. Australian channel did a profile not too long ago comparing a family close to foreclosure with the free spirited renters. After seeing that piece it’s any wonder Oz’s market is so tepid!
That would be something, to be the person who produced a news piece that would be looked upon as the “aha” moment that precipitated a much-needed crash.
better yet jesse, show senior citizen renter vs long time homeowner. I think seeing that piece might start a bull run on real estate
If Global does a piece about the 80% crash, it would be welcome by a handful posters in this blog. otherwise, you are being criticized as “poor and industry-serving coverage of our housing bubble”, of which predicting by a whole bunch of armchair-angry-priceout economists.
Fred, welcome back. So good to read your intelligent words once again.
Several points:
1) Who said anything about an “80% crash?” I don’t think any of us realists expects anything close to 80%, my good man. Of course, an “80% crash” would allow so many more to buy fetid $1 million crack shacks in seamy East Van for a mere $200,000. Hmm…come to think of it, maybe we need a 100% crash.
2) A “correction” that would bring the Vancouver area in line with most of the rest of the developed world would be welcomed not just by a handful of “blog posters,” but by a majority of long-term local residents who’ve seen speculators, off-shore interests, and voluntarily ignorant “Buy now or be priced out forever” believers annihilate any hope of owning.
3) What exactly does “armchair-angry-priceout economists” mean?
“A “correction” that would bring the Vancouver area in line with most of the rest of the developed world”
what world city (excluding US) would you expect the Vancouver market to align with?
How about Berlin then? At least most people have heard of it – ah, but wait there was no housing bubble in Germany. Not that the cities share much visually in common anway.
Maybe Brisbane? – hang on, the bubble has already popped there and is in free fall. How about something closer to home like Calgary – nah, that doesn’t work either since the housing bubble popped there 4 years ago and prices have been going down ever since.
I’ve got it! Shanghai! It’s a perfect example with all the cheap money, corruption, speculation, ponzi finanace and negative gearing in a local economy where nearly 1/3 of income generated is in real estate. What? You mean to tell me there’s a credit crisis in China. You don’t say. And that their property bubble appears close to falling apart as their shadow banking system comes unwound.
Well I guess it’s just different in Vancouver because it’s so special.
I don’t usually speak up here but I can give a short story on our situation. My wife and I ‘were’ to become first time home buyers after spending a year and a half living at my mother in-laws saving for a down payment (not typical these days, actually saving for a down payment?, that’s crazy talk). We were hours away from closing on a townhouse in port moody when we decided to walk away from it. I’ve never been happier with that decision, soon after we found this site and have just moved into a new rental unit right next to family (nearby child care). So not only do we have an acceptable rent payment but we have some money to invest, and no loans or debt of any kind.. How is that for a quick snapshot of one potential first time home buyer. Thankfully logic trumped emotion here.
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