Debtisslavery at greaterfool.ca 6 Nov 2010 12.40pm – “I got a bit nosy yesterday and checked the land registration office online for my province. One can find out if there is a mortgage on any property, for a small fee.
So I checked out about 10 properties of friends, acquaintances and relatives.
I couldn’t believe what I saw. Between the start of the housing boom and now, people have gone hog wild. People who you would not believe could do it, in fact, did it.
And no, I don’t believe these people had tax purposes and investment strategies in mind. Consumption is what they had in mind.
75 year-olds have taken a $70,000 mortgage on their modest semi-detached; 40-something high flying government employees mortgaged $400,000 for a house paid $350,000; a boomer mortgaged $150,000 on a townhouse she bought for $75,000 15 years ago; pre-boomers took a $125,000 mortgage on their modest detached house; a 60-something law professional signed for a half-million $ loan; a career-oriented, no-nonsense individual has now a $175,000 mortgage on a home bought for $160,000 with a $122,000 mortgage 5 years ago; a 40 something couple refinanced 3 times and could barely recoup anything if they had to sell now.
Real estate is the fastest way to impoverishment for a lot of people. Had these people sold their houses, took their equity and burned it, they would have been ahead. Tough times are coming. There is going to be carnage in real estate.”
Most Recent Comments:
- Real Estate Tsunami on Chat Thread
- forex conquest review on Gord Goble in Local Newspapers – Vancouver RE ‘House Of Cards’ Will “Implode”
- rod_jonsson on Chat Thread
- Nemesis on Chat Thread
- Leona on MSM Continue To Pump RE – “What’s next? “Cigarettes found to extend lifetime: Marlboro?”
- rod_jonsson on Chat Thread
- Nemesis on Chat Thread
- rp1 on Chat Thread
- Farmer on Chat Thread
- Nemesis on Chat Thread
- Nemesis on Chat Thread
- Nemesis on Chat Thread
Type of Anecdote
- 01. He Said, She Said (247)
- 02. Profiting from the Boom (441)
- 03. Changed my Life (103)
- 04. Changed my Career (38)
- 05. Where do Buyers get the money? (958)
- 06. Held my Nose and Leapt (96)
- 07. Avoiding Vancouver (375)
- 08. Overextended Buyers (1182)
- 09. Delaying Buying (315)
- 10. Demoralized Renters? (362)
- 11. Regrets about Investing in RE (417)
- 12. Effects of Development (274)
- 13. 2010 Olympics Related (74)
- 14. Social Effects of the Boom (1255)
- 15. Misallocation of Resources (958)
- 16. Missed The Boat? (236)
- 17. The Froogle Scott Chronicles (27)
- 18. Spot The Speculator (171)
- 19. BlastRadiusPostCards (17)
- 20. The Limitless Demand Argument For Ongoing Market Strength (70)
- 21. Vancouver RE-Verse [Found Poems] (8)
- 22. RE References In Popular Culture (41)
- 23. Jumping The Shark (1)
- 24. Policies On Housing (10)
- 25. Epigrams For The Bubble (1)
- 26. Premature Calls Of "Bottom" (3)
- 27. Seller Panic (3)
- 28. Erroneous Causation Theories For Falling Prices (7)
- 29. Bubblespeak (1)
- Uncategorized (176)
Blogroll
- 01 Vancouver Condo Info
- 02 AmericaCanada [retired, no archive]
- 03 Housing Analysis
- 04 RealEstateTalks BC
- 05 Vancouver RE and then some
- 06 Whispers from the Village on the Edge of the Rainforest
- 07 Greater Fool
- 08 Canada Bubble
- 09 Rob Chipman's blog
- 10 YatterMatters
- 11 condohype [retired; archives available]
- 12 vancouver (un)real estate
- 13 Agent Will's Stats [retired]
- 14 Landlord Rescue
- 15 The Economic Analyst
- 16 Canadian Housing Price Charts
- 17 Hoodsurf [retired Jun 2011]
- 18 World Housing Bubble
- 19 Vancouver Price Drop
- 20 North American Economics



Follow vreaa on twitter
- Chat Thread wp.me/pcq1o-5vD 3 weeks ago

VREAArchives
- April 2013
- March 2013
- February 2013
- January 2013
- December 2012
- November 2012
- October 2012
- September 2012
- August 2012
- July 2012
- June 2012
- May 2012
- April 2012
- March 2012
- February 2012
- January 2012
- December 2011
- November 2011
- October 2011
- September 2011
- August 2011
- July 2011
- June 2011
- May 2011
- April 2011
- March 2011
- February 2011
- January 2011
- December 2010
- November 2010
- October 2010
- September 2010
- August 2010
- July 2010
- June 2010
- May 2010
- April 2010
- March 2010
- February 2010
- January 2010
- December 2009
- November 2009
- October 2009
- September 2009
- August 2009
- June 2009
- May 2009
- April 2009
- March 2009
- February 2009
- January 2009
- October 2008
- September 2008
- July 2008
- June 2008
- May 2008
- April 2008
- March 2008
- February 2008
Tags
Anecdotes Banks Bears blogs British Columbia Bubble Bulls buyers Canada Capitulation China CMHC Construction Debt Economy Employment Fear Foreign buyers Fundamentals Government Housing Interest Rates Landlords Life Media Mortgage brokers Okanagan Olympics Ownership Prediction Real Estate Realtors Relationships Rent Retirement RE_ATM sellers Sentiment Speculators Toronto US Vancouver Victoria Visual Anecdote Whistler




























I have a friend who has five investment properties and about 24 cents in cash. The RE disaster is here, and no one wants to yell fire in a crowded theatre.
Look, when Mark Carney says Canadians have too much debt – that is a straight warning to get liquid. That, my friend, is easier said, than done.
If you can sell, get out now. The mortgage rules have changed to Collatreal backed mortgages, no longer Promissary at T D. The Banks want you to work for them forever, and many will. Mort – Gage means death contract, and that is precisely where a lot of people are. Most assuredly, finite, financially. Bread lines will be a luxury, as wheat, sugar, soy, millet, and other foodstuffs go to the moon. I am serious. Plant a Victory Garden now – and if you live in a condo – start a balcony garden.
That bad?
Worse.
By refinancing, people obviously don’t have a clue they are signing their death warrants.
Even food banks will have to take reservations. It will be even harder to make a reservation since most cell phones will have been cancelled, and a 25cent coins to use a public phone will be a luxury. The only option will be to wait in line…maybe for days. Even tent cities will look like a luxury, since most people won’t even have enough to buy a tent. I hope they don’t demolish churches and old schools, because their basement may be the only shelter available, furnished with army surplus items.
For those of us who paid our houses and saved, we may have to go out in group for security, so we can avoid getting stabbed in the back for a bag of groceries.
I won’t even be letting my cats out anymore.
For the record, I agree that RE in Vancouver will fall very hard, but suspect that we’ll muddle along thereafter in circumstances that will be less dire than those described by Debtisslavery.
Having said that, being prepared for relatively rough times won’t hurt.