“I got a bit nosy yesterday and checked the online land registration office for about 10 properties of friends, acquaintances and relatives.”

Debtisslavery at greaterfool.ca 6 Nov 2010 12.40pm“I got a bit nosy yesterday and checked the land registration office online for my province. One can find out if there is a mortgage on any property, for a small fee.
So I checked out about 10 properties of friends, acquaintances and relatives.
I couldn’t believe what I saw. Between the start of the housing boom and now, people have gone hog wild. People who you would not believe could do it, in fact, did it.
And no, I don’t believe these people had tax purposes and investment strategies in mind. Consumption is what they had in mind.
75 year-olds have taken a $70,000 mortgage on their modest semi-detached; 40-something high flying government employees mortgaged $400,000 for a house paid $350,000; a boomer mortgaged $150,000 on a townhouse she bought for $75,000 15 years ago; pre-boomers took a $125,000 mortgage on their modest detached house; a 60-something law professional signed for a half-million $ loan; a career-oriented, no-nonsense individual has now a $175,000 mortgage on a home bought for $160,000 with a $122,000 mortgage 5 years ago; a 40 something couple refinanced 3 times and could barely recoup anything if they had to sell now.
Real estate is the fastest way to impoverishment for a lot of people. Had these people sold their houses, took their equity and burned it, they would have been ahead. Tough times are coming. There is going to be carnage in real estate.”

3 Responses to “I got a bit nosy yesterday and checked the online land registration office for about 10 properties of friends, acquaintances and relatives.”

  1. I have a friend who has five investment properties and about 24 cents in cash. The RE disaster is here, and no one wants to yell fire in a crowded theatre.
    Look, when Mark Carney says Canadians have too much debt – that is a straight warning to get liquid. That, my friend, is easier said, than done.
    If you can sell, get out now. The mortgage rules have changed to Collatreal backed mortgages, no longer Promissary at T D. The Banks want you to work for them forever, and many will. Mort – Gage means death contract, and that is precisely where a lot of people are. Most assuredly, finite, financially. Bread lines will be a luxury, as wheat, sugar, soy, millet, and other foodstuffs go to the moon. I am serious. Plant a Victory Garden now – and if you live in a condo – start a balcony garden.

    That bad?
    Worse.

  2. By refinancing, people obviously don’t have a clue they are signing their death warrants.

    Even food banks will have to take reservations. It will be even harder to make a reservation since most cell phones will have been cancelled, and a 25cent coins to use a public phone will be a luxury. The only option will be to wait in line…maybe for days. Even tent cities will look like a luxury, since most people won’t even have enough to buy a tent. I hope they don’t demolish churches and old schools, because their basement may be the only shelter available, furnished with army surplus items.

    For those of us who paid our houses and saved, we may have to go out in group for security, so we can avoid getting stabbed in the back for a bag of groceries.

    I won’t even be letting my cats out anymore.

    • For the record, I agree that RE in Vancouver will fall very hard, but suspect that we’ll muddle along thereafter in circumstances that will be less dire than those described by Debtisslavery.
      Having said that, being prepared for relatively rough times won’t hurt.

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