Ralph Kramden at VREAA 16 Sep 2010 9:14 pm – “The place we used to live in is owned by an American. They listed it at a price that was stupidly high, and they had the nerve to say “stay awhile, we have your life upended for tours of eager buyers”. We gave our notice and split. The place is still on the market 4 months later and the building manager says it has been shown maybe 5 times. This is a million dollar condo. Now I noticed that a new agent is listing the place. No reduction in price, but the agent looks like a rookie. Maybe the smart managers are steering sales to guys that can close and the dogs go to the rookies. The whole market is upside down and will be carnage for people who bought in the last few years. I am so glad I sold out two years ago.”
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There are some odd things happening. I have a friend who rents a house in Surrey. He has been there for almost two years and is frustrated with the landlord because many promised repairs and improvements have not been done. Twice the landlord has had the house assessed in an attempt to take more money out on a HELOC. It is clear the owner is stapped for money and cannot afford to do the necessary repairs/improvements. Recentlymy friend found out (from a neighbour) that the house has been listed for sale with a real estate agent. He found the listing online and on MLS (no pictures). He has never been told and there is no sign on the property. He figures that the landlord is petrified that he will move out if he knows the house is for sale and cannot afford to have the house sit empty while it languishes on the market… ergo he isn’t being told (which is bizzare because how can they ever show the house unless they tell the tenant). The asking price on the listing is the current assessed value of the house. After 3 months there appears to have been ZERO interest expressed in the house. Needless to say he is looking for a new place to rent and taking his time to find the perfect place.
how can a buyer buy if they can’t even access the inside of the home? owner is dumb to not let the tenants know.
I recently told my landlord that I would be leaving sometime around Janurary so she decided to put the place on the market. Luckily we have a good relationship so she promised to make the closing date after my proposed move-out time and asks permission to have an open house weeks in advance.
You can put her in the same catagory as many sellers right now I suppose. The place is listed a little high, and I talked to the realtor and she basically said my landlord was in no hurry to sell, so I may be able to stay past Janurary if I wanted.
I gotta say, as long as you have a good relationship with your landlord the whole selling thing doesnt seem to be a big deal. The only way I could see this going bad is if she needed to sell, then I am sure all courtesy would be thrown out the window.
You all should learn the laws regarding rental properties. You cannot ask a tenant to leave so that you can sell the property. If the landlord wants to sell, he/she can only sell it as an investment property ie with tenants. Even if a landlord dies, the tenant cannot be forced out of the home (or condo). The executor has to continue to rent the property (or sell it as an investment property) until the tenant decides to vacate.
Suburban John
Firstly, not one single person on this post referred to being asked to leave their rental because it was being sold. The only mention of leaving was because tenants did not wish to put up with the hassle of their home being shown.
Secondly, you are wrong and should learn the laws regarding rental properties.
“Bailing in BC | 20 September 2010 at 9:45 pm | Reply
Suburban John
Firstly, not one single person on this post referred to being asked to leave their rental because it was being sold. The only mention of leaving was because tenants did not wish to put up with the hassle of their home being shown.
Secondly, you are wrong and should learn the laws regarding rental properties.”
Could you enlighten us then?